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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> awesome. >> joe biden is -- >> yeah. >> but, you know, actually, couple things there. one is the biden saying not mathematically possible over and over again which is sort of where i think a lot of the left wanted the president to go really hard on this doesn't work. it's not -- it's not amyth ma tick -- the math doesn't work. but then the jack kennedy thing -- i'm curious to know what you thought of that. some on the right thought that was really unnecessary, that was a low blow, that wasn't very statesman like. other people said put the young ipper snapper in his place. >> that moment was just systematic of the debate. joe biden versus joe biden. ryan barely showed up. he passed the threshold and did fine but if you like sneering attacks from this kind of senator, you're going to love it. >> wow. >> sneering attacks from this pompous old senator. >> but if -- >> not a joe biden fan. >> i am a joe biden fan. if you think joe biden is over the top you're going to not like it. you saw the reactions kind of split dow
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> awesome. >> joe biden is -- >> yeah. >> but, you know, actually, couple things there. one is the biden saying not mathematically possible over and over again which is sort of where i think a lot of the left wanted the president to go really hard on this doesn't work. it's not -- it's not amyth ma tick -- the math doesn't work. but then the jack kennedy thing -- i'm curious to know what you...
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. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the floor. unlike president obama, the vice president kept his eyes on his opponent smiling and shaking his head as the republican candidate attacked. >>> the hot topic of libya and the deadly assault in benghazi that killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. president obama's deputy campaign manager suggested the only reason the obama's handling of the attack is because the republicans are talking about it on the campaign trail. she said that was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible. last night, ryan blasted the white house. >> it took the presi
. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the...
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. >> it has never been -- >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, be now you're jack kennedy? >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> was that nervous laughter of the audience that you could hear? whol had to meet the threshold of competency and he did. biden scored points on substance. don't be surprised if we hear the most effective lines of attack from the president himself at next week's town hall-style debate in new york. the question is, how much was biden hurt on style. republicans did what they could to turn him into al gore, the eye rolls, sighs, that kind of thing. >> he reminded me of al gore in 2000 walking over and standing by president bush and getting in his face. >> i don't know if he thought it was a joke but he was laughing a lot. >> it was bizarre. i thought it was belittling. >> when the other side is spending their time tweeting and going after eye rolls and smirks, they are losing the debate and everybody knows it. >> the problem for republicans with the gore narrative, al gore did something we had never seen him do. democratic base
. >> it has never been -- >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, be now you're jack kennedy? >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> was that nervous laughter of the audience that you could hear? whol had to meet the threshold of competency and he did. biden scored points on substance. don't be surprised if we hear the most effective lines of attack from the president himself at next week's town hall-style debate in new york. the question is, how...
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jack kennedy lowered. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress, but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> well, don't take all the four minutes, then. that's a bunch of malarky. >> less than four weeks till election day, and two candidates wishing they could close the sale as well as this guy does. >> you okay? okay. what it does is it gives us an opportunity for us to be able to offer a piece of electronic equipment that is simple for children to operate but also mom and dad can operate it as well. >> you've just got to continue to sell the product. >>> when we come back, david gregory and tom brokaw join the conversation. also chuck todd live from danville, kentucky. >>> and later, house majority leader eric cantor and congressman chris van hollen. all that when "morning joe" comes back. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment o
jack kennedy lowered. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress, but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> well, don't take all the four minutes, then. that's a bunch of malarky. >> less than four weeks till election day, and two candidates wishing they could close the sale as well as this guy does. >> you okay? okay. what it does is it gives us an opportunity for us to be...
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. >> ronald reagan and jack kennedy -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> the vice president almost got dismissive when he tried to question the administration's business in afghanistan. >> at times joe biden used answers like marlakey over answers paul ryan gave. the romney/ryan ticket has been saying the united states has been pulling too many troops out of afghanistan leave doing small of force to defend itself in the eastern part of that country. now again here biden staying on the attack questioning ryan's understanding of the obama administration's policy to train afghan troops to take over the fight against the taliban. >> it's the most dangerous place in the world. >> that's why we don't want to send fewer -- >> that's why we should send americans in to do the job. you'd rather americans >> no. we are already sending americans to do the job but fewer of them. >> that's right. we're sending in more afghans to do the job, afghans to do the job. >> you know, this post debate spin has already gone into high gear tonight. republicans sending out dozens of e-mails to reporters tonight questionin
. >> ronald reagan and jack kennedy -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> the vice president almost got dismissive when he tried to question the administration's business in afghanistan. >> at times joe biden used answers like marlakey over answers paul ryan gave. the romney/ryan ticket has been saying the united states has been pulling too many troops out of afghanistan leave doing small of force to defend itself in the eastern part of that country. now again here biden...
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senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator you are no jack kennedy. >> bill: oh, stab -- stick the knife in. but of course quayle ended up becoming vice president. here is jay calling from atlanta, georgia. how, what did you think? >> caller: good morning, biden came in like a professional fighter. he was armed with facts. he was talking about the car industry and how ryan and the republicans have made a request for stimulus out of one side of your mouth and that's the facts, ping, bang. i mean give me a break. i just wish that biden had a chance to talk about that false lies that they was saying that the president has raised taxes on the middle class. he hasn't raised any taxes. >> bill: he cut taxes on the middle class. i agree, jay, he hit them on every point. and i love when paul ryan's attack of the stimulus is not working, and biden said look at this guy, he sent me two letters requesting money. and ryan had to admit, yeah i did that but it was just on behalf of my constituents. biden was right on top of that one
senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator you are no jack kennedy. >> bill: oh, stab -- stick the knife in. but of course quayle ended up becoming vice president. here is jay calling from atlanta, georgia. how, what did you think? >> caller: good morning, biden came in like a professional fighter. he was armed with facts. he was talking about the car industry and how ryan and the republicans have made a request for stimulus...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: the moderator martha raddatz set it was more intimate. >> the jabs felt more personal. >> reporter: both sides claiming victory as they head back on the campaign trail to rally more support. debate was a tie. biden brought energy the democrats wanted and ryan brought seriousness the republicans needed. >> reporter: romney and ryan are campaigning to the in ohio. biden is hitting the trail in wisconsin with anticipation building for the second presidential debate next week. broken d
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: the moderator martha raddatz set it was more intimate. >> the jabs felt more personal. >> reporter: both sides claiming victory as they head back on the campaign trail to rally more support. debate was a tie. biden brought energy the democrats wanted and ryan brought seriousness the republicans needed. >> reporter: romney and ryan are campaigning to the in ohio. biden is hitting the trail in wisconsin with anticipation building for the second presidential debate next week. broken d
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> containing the outbreak. health officials try to locate patients exposed to a deadly form of meningitis. and the firm that supplied the contaminated shots linked to the infection may have been operating illegally. >>> mayor misconduct. an elderly mayor admits to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from her city but she's not going jail. this is the "cbs morning news" for friday, october 12, 2012. good morning. good to be with you. i'm terrell brown. compared to last week's presidential debate last night's faceoff between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan was like a shoot out at the ok corral. from the get go it was a pull no punches performance by both candidates. they squared off on everything from the economy to foreign affairs. randall good morning. >> reporter: good morning. both candidates came here on a mission. congressman ryan to criticize the obama administration's failures and republican solut
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> containing the outbreak. health officials try to locate patients exposed to a deadly form of meningitis. and the firm that supplied the contaminated shots linked to the infection may have been operating illegally. >>> mayor misconduct. an elderly mayor admits to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from...
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. >> there has done -- >> 0 now your jack kennedy. >> finger-pointing. >> 23 million americans are out of work today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. >> and a lot of laughs. >> i know you are under a lot of brass -- duress. >> he also challenged mitt romney the's tax plan. >> it should not be surprising geared for a guy who says 47% of people are unwilling to take responsibility. they pay more tax than gov. romney pays. >> the moderator's as the setting was more intimate. >> the jabs at one another, it felt was more personal. >> both sides are claiming victory as the waste no time heading back out on the campaign trail to rally more support. >> it is basically a tie. joe biden brought energy. and paul ryan brought the seriousness the republicans needed. >> today on the campaign trail is back to business for both of them. joe biden will have to hire with mitt romney. first, fighting for virginia. a live picture ready to get under way in richmond. scott thuman is there with a report starting at 5:00 p.m. the meantime, coming up on news at noon, if either going to extremes to
. >> there has done -- >> 0 now your jack kennedy. >> finger-pointing. >> 23 million americans are out of work today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. >> and a lot of laughs. >> i know you are under a lot of brass -- duress. >> he also challenged mitt romney the's tax plan. >> it should not be surprising geared for a guy who says 47% of people are unwilling to take responsibility. they pay more tax than gov. romney pays. >> the...
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biden now you are jack kennedy line generated 58,000. the minute it was by far the most tweeted remark. over all though the debate didn't create as much traffic as the presidential one 10.3 million tweet. >> president obama and mitt romney meet in their second doe bait next tuesday in new york this one will be town hall meeting format. we'll carry it live starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> all right. you may know heart break in oakland tonight. unfortunately the a's incredible run in the play offs comes to an end. >> couldn't pull off a win in the game 5 of the series and larry is here now. >> kind of a bumper. especially after last night the thrilling 9th inning come back. down wins again tonight this time justin would not allow any green and gold magic. tiger ace who won the series opener striking out 11 toss a complete no hitter as the tigers beat oakland 6 nothing. final out. detroit advances to the meern league championship series and the wonderful season for the a's come to know a end. lisa joins us live now in oakld with unfortunately a bu
biden now you are jack kennedy line generated 58,000. the minute it was by far the most tweeted remark. over all though the debate didn't create as much traffic as the presidential one 10.3 million tweet. >> president obama and mitt romney meet in their second doe bait next tuesday in new york this one will be town hall meeting format. we'll carry it live starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> all right. you may know heart break in oakland tonight. unfortunately the a's incredible run in the...
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biden now you are jack kennedy line generated 58,000. the minute it was by far the most tweeted remark. over all though the debate didn't create as much traffic as the presidential one 10.3 million tweet. >> president obama and mitt romney meet in their second doe bait next tuesday in new york this one will be town hall meeting format. we'll carry it live starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> all right. you may know heart break in oakland tonight. unfortunately the a's incredible run in the play offs comes to an end. >> couldn't pull off a win in the game 5 of the series and larry is here now. >> kind of a bumper. especially after last night the thrilling 9th inning come back. down wins again tonight this time justin would not allow any green and gold magic. tiger ace who won the series opener striking out 11 toss a complete no hitter as the tigers beat oakland 6 nothing. final out. detroit advances to the meern league championship series and the wonderful season for the a's come to know a end. lisa joins us live now in oakland with unfortunately a
biden now you are jack kennedy line generated 58,000. the minute it was by far the most tweeted remark. over all though the debate didn't create as much traffic as the presidential one 10.3 million tweet. >> president obama and mitt romney meet in their second doe bait next tuesday in new york this one will be town hall meeting format. we'll carry it live starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> all right. you may know heart break in oakland tonight. unfortunately the a's incredible run in the...
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jack kennedy lowered taxes and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> first of all, i was there -- >> just one of several jab exchanges during last night's spirited vice-presidential debate. two men also sparred over judicial appointments, abortion, taxes, and unemployment. the polls split on who won that debate. cbs news showed vice president biden won about 50% to congressman ryan's 31%. here in california, the margins a little narrower. >>> both joe biden and paul ryan got right back on the campaign trail hoping to build on any post debate momentum. cbs reporter danielle nottingham shows us how both sides are claiming victory. >> reporter: vice president joe biden continues to play offense in wisconsin friday. >> it's time romney and ryan and the republican congress take a pledge to the middle class people saying we're going to level the playing field. >> reporter: a day after a spirited vice-presidential debate. >> with all due respect that's a bunch malarkey. >> watch out, middle class, the tax bill is coming to you. >> reporter: both candidates headed back
jack kennedy lowered taxes and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> first of all, i was there -- >> just one of several jab exchanges during last night's spirited vice-presidential debate. two men also sparred over judicial appointments, abortion, taxes, and unemployment. the polls split on who won that debate. cbs news showed vice president biden won about 50% to congressman ryan's 31%. here in california, the margins a little narrower. >>>...
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biden now you are jack kennedy line generated 58,000. the minute it was by far the most tweeted remark. over all though the debate didn't create as much traffic as the presidential one 10.3 million tweet. >> president obama and mitt romney meet in their second doe bait next tuesday in new york this one will be town hall meeting format. we'll carry it live starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> all right. you may know heart break in oakland tonight. unfortunately the a's incredible run in the play offs comes to an end. >> couldn't pull off a win in the game 5 of the series and larry is here now. >> kind of a bumper. especially after last night the thrilling 9th inning come back. down wins again tonight this time justin would not allow any green and gold magic. tiger ace who won the series opener striking out 11 toss a complete no hitter as the tigers beat oakland 6 nothing. final out. detroit advances to the meern league championship series and the wonderful season for the a's come to know a end. lisa joins us live now in oakland with unfortunately a
biden now you are jack kennedy line generated 58,000. the minute it was by far the most tweeted remark. over all though the debate didn't create as much traffic as the presidential one 10.3 million tweet. >> president obama and mitt romney meet in their second doe bait next tuesday in new york this one will be town hall meeting format. we'll carry it live starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> all right. you may know heart break in oakland tonight. unfortunately the a's incredible run in the...
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you're jack kennedy?" generated 50,000 tweets per minute. president obama and mitt romney meet next tuesday at hofstra university in new york this will be in a found hall format. abc 7 will carry it live. >>> traffic and weather together, next on abc7 morning news. live look outside now this is the embarcadero where you can see the shiney roads still a little slick. meteorologist mike nicco will have your full forecast. we'll check in with sue hall who is tracking muni metro lines not running now due to huge restaurant fire. >>> also, more problems for toyota. new consumer reports alert >>> welcome back. higher elevations to the east of milpitas and fremont right now along calaveras avenue where we have our lone shower. if you look at live doppler it is showing drying trend as the next wave of showers are going to stay in the central valley and head farther south there. for us pockets of sunshine develop this afternoon after the morning's mist and drizzle and shower activity that will be it temperatures be
you're jack kennedy?" generated 50,000 tweets per minute. president obama and mitt romney meet next tuesday at hofstra university in new york this will be in a found hall format. abc 7 will carry it live. >>> traffic and weather together, next on abc7 morning news. live look outside now this is the embarcadero where you can see the shiney roads still a little slick. meteorologist mike nicco will have your full forecast. we'll check in with sue hall who is tracking muni metro lines...
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. >> when ryan mentioned jack kennedy lowered tax rates biden fired back saying now you're jack kennedy? >>> twitter says the debate generated 3 1/2 million tweets. biden's kennedy line generated 58,000 tweets a minute the most tweeted remark. overall the debate didn't create nearly as much traffic as the presidential debates, 10.3 million tweets. >> next debate, next tuesday when president obama and mitt romney meet at hofstra university in new york. it will be the second debate. this one will be in a town hall meeting format. abc 7 will carry it live starting at 6:00 in the evening. >>> a's fans thanking their team for a fantastic season. the comeback team that kept coming back all year long couldn't manage one more win to advance in the playoffs. tigers dominated the a's last night in the final game of their series shutting them out 6-0 fans. say it was a great ride and gave their team a standing ovation. >>> giants fans are equally proud celebrating big time after giants beat the red in cincinnati. posey's grand slam in the 5th led the giants to a 6-4 victory they chance to the seri
. >> when ryan mentioned jack kennedy lowered tax rates biden fired back saying now you're jack kennedy? >>> twitter says the debate generated 3 1/2 million tweets. biden's kennedy line generated 58,000 tweets a minute the most tweeted remark. overall the debate didn't create nearly as much traffic as the presidential debates, 10.3 million tweets. >> next debate, next tuesday when president obama and mitt romney meet at hofstra university in new york. it will be the second...
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kennedy, jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. memorable moments. there have been others. bob dole who proved to be such a hatchet man. but the vice presidential debate has never changed anything. yes, it is important but not that important. the choice remains barack obama versus mitt romney, but aren't we all counts on joe to come out and challenge paul ryan on every one of his lies and expose the lies that he and mitt romney have been telling? we're looking forward to tonight. 866-55-press, the "full court press" on this thursday october 11th. good to have you with us. >> announcer: radio meets television. the "bill press show." now on current tv. ♪ of this democracy and see your tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct. [ female announcer ] pillsbury crescents fabulous but...when i add chicken barbecue sauce... and cheese...and roll it up woo-wee! i've made a barbecue chicken crescent chow down. pillsbury crescents. let the making begin. [ female announcer ] why settle for pla
kennedy, jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. memorable moments. there have been others. bob dole who proved to be such a hatchet man. but the vice presidential debate has never changed anything. yes, it is important but not that important. the choice remains barack obama versus mitt romney, but aren't we all counts on joe to come out and challenge paul ryan on every one of his lies and expose the lies that he and mitt romney have been telling? we're looking...
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. >> jack kennedy. ronald reagan. >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a bit of a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. a watch party of students turned out for this historic debate between two catholic vice presidential candidates. >> i am catholic and it's nice to hear them say they are practicing. but i think a lot of the policy they forget about their religion. >> even this campus only about 50 students showed up to watch the vice presidential debate. there were plenty of empty seats. >>> president obama watched the vice presidential debate on air force one as he was returning to washington from a campaign visit from florida. following the debate the president told reporters he thought joe biden was terrific and already called the vice president to congratulate him. mitt romney watched the debate at his hotel room in ashville, north carolina. the campaign spokesman said he called paul ryan immediately after the debate to congratulate him. on ou
. >> jack kennedy. ronald reagan. >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a bit of a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. a watch party of students turned out for this historic debate between two catholic vice presidential candidates. >> i am catholic and it's nice to hear them say they are practicing. but i think a lot of the policy they forget about their religion. >> even this campus only about 50 students showed...
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. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin? >> you did ask for stimulus money, right? >> on two occasions, we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program, and he writes me a letter, saying the reason we need this, it will create growth and jobs. his words. >> i want to move on here to medicare entitlements. i think we've gone over this quite enough. >> by the way -- >> reporter: but the night would not be complete without a bidism. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> why is that? >> because not a single thing he said is accurate. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it's irish. we irish call it malarkey. >> reporter: they were very feisty. all right. we've got joe tuman. and let's talk about body language a little bit. we talked about the words first. you saw the vice
. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin? >> you did ask for stimulus money, right? >> on two occasions, we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program, and he writes me a letter, saying the reason we need this, it will...
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. >> jack kennedy, ronald reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. >>> here in the bay area they held watch parties. >> ryan is staying on target. he is staying with the facts. biden is going after him. interruptions. not making himself clear. >> the president is an excellent president. he is a decent man. sometimes too decent. joe biden is showing you have to stay with the facts. >> those people obviously thought joe biden dominated the debate. republicans thought paul ryan came out ahead. no surprise there. we have posted more video of last nights debate just look for world and u.s. news tab. >>> another debate is making headlines but for very different reasons. youtube video shows two southern california lawmakers almost getting in a fight. coming up at 5:45 what was behind this heated exchange. >>> happening right now the space shuttle endeavour is on the move. it's headed from lax to its permanent home at the california science center near
. >> jack kennedy, ronald reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. >>> here in the bay area they held watch parties. >> ryan is staying on target. he is staying with the facts. biden is going after him. interruptions. not making himself clear. >> the president is an excellent president. he is a decent man. sometimes...
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. >>> jack kennedy lowered tax rates increased growth. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> joe biden and paul ryan locking horns in the only vice- presidential debate of 2012. violent's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 -- vice president's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 barb. >> here's randall pinkston are highlights from the clash in kentucky and results of who came out the winner. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >> reporter: the vice president and ryan clashed over the economy, taxes and medicare with the democrat often on the attack. >> and they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut. it's about time they take some responsibility. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a real recovery, and that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposin
. >>> jack kennedy lowered tax rates increased growth. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> joe biden and paul ryan locking horns in the only vice- presidential debate of 2012. violent's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 -- vice president's revival of lloyd bentsen's 1988 barb. >> here's randall pinkston are highlights from the clash in kentucky and results of who came out the winner. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no...
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jack kennedy increased -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> some of those punches landed on both sides last night. this is what's happening over my shoulder. construction workers are taking apart what was martha raditz's desk. they're taking down the lights, et cetera, as they break down and start clean iing up what wa done here last night. cnn snap poll of debate watchers taken right after the dough bait shows that paul ryan won, ahead of four points. if you look at the margin of error, which is plus or minus five points, that poll is right within the margin of error. so, basically, it was a tie. want to get right to cnn contributor erick erickson, editor in chief of redstate.com. nice to see you, erick. >> thank you. >> you heard some of the back and forth last night, some of the highlights, i would guess. both sides have proclaimed that their guy won. you heard it in the spin room. i've seen it on twitter. people coming to talk to me this morning, their person had the decisive victory. ultimately you're going after people who are undecid
jack kennedy increased -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> some of those punches landed on both sides last night. this is what's happening over my shoulder. construction workers are taking apart what was martha raditz's desk. they're taking down the lights, et cetera, as they break down and start clean iing up what wa done here last night. cnn snap poll of debate watchers taken right after the dough bait shows that paul ryan won, ahead of four points. if you look at the margin of...
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the vice-presidential candidates revived lloyd bentsen's 1988 jack kennedy line one of many barbs traded by the candidate last night. >> here's randall pinkston with highlights and results of a poll on who came out the winner. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing he said is accurate. >> reporter: the vice president and ryan clashed over the economy, taxes and medicare with the democrat often on the attack. >> and they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut. it's about time they take some responsibility. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a real recovery, and that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposing. >> reporter: after several heated exchanges, ryan insinuated that president obama's performance last week was motivating the vice president. >> mr. vice pr
the vice-presidential candidates revived lloyd bentsen's 1988 jack kennedy line one of many barbs traded by the candidate last night. >> here's randall pinkston with highlights and results of a poll on who came out the winner. >> i will be very specific. >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> not a single thing...
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jack kennedy lowered tax increase growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> chairman of the budget committee stood his ground. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> pressured on romney's plan to reform social security and medicare, ryan didn't back down. >> they haven't put a credible solution on the table. he'll tell you about vouchers. he'll say all these things to try to scare people. >> reporter: silenced the vice president, almost by connecting the president's jobs record to biden's hometown. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton pennsylvania. i'm from wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> do you know what it was the day you guys came in? it's 8.5%. >> yeah. >> that's the way it's going all around america. >> trying to change the subject. he may have some cleanup of his own to do today on libya. he said last night the administration didn't know about additional security requests there
jack kennedy lowered tax increase growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> chairman of the budget committee stood his ground. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> pressured on romney's plan to reform social security and medicare, ryan didn't back down. >> they haven't put a credible solution on the table. he'll tell you about vouchers. he'll say all these things to try to...
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. >> i knew jack kennedy. he was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments but hardly game changers. presidential debates can impact vice-presidential debate like this one between biden and all of ryan. they could be different. >> you need to be seeing that they are ready. that there will be ready in a national crisis to be able to step into the oval office and to take a rain of the presidency. beyond that, once they are and that they could start seek touching moments it is really changing the debates. >> the strategic is saying that the first rule is to do no harm a. >> in terms of senses to not to break ground this is not an audition. this is only 2012. >> i do not like a damn thing about it. >> joe biden committed to 20 different debate saying that the contact is never easy. >> i have mostly been doing is quite frankly studying up on ryan's positions on his issues. and romney has embraced from everything that i have seen. i do not want to see that everything is completely accurate. >> what do they thi
. >> i knew jack kennedy. he was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments but hardly game changers. presidential debates can impact vice-presidential debate like this one between biden and all of ryan. they could be different. >> you need to be seeing that they are ready. that there will be ready in a national crisis to be able to step into the oval office and to take a rain of the presidency. beyond that, once they are and that they could start...
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. >> jack kennedy lowers tax rates. >> oh now you're jack kennedy. >> could have controlled it a little bit better. >> now questions after "time" magazine published these paul ryan pictures. >> plus, how they'll tackle the face-off this weekend. >>> is bobbiri
. >> jack kennedy lowers tax rates. >> oh now you're jack kennedy. >> could have controlled it a little bit better. >> now questions after "time" magazine published these paul ryan pictures. >> plus, how they'll tackle the face-off this weekend. >>> is bobbiri
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. >> jack kennedy increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> a battle of minds. congressman ryan and vice president widen go head to head in the first and only vice presidential decade. we dig into the facts and fiction ahead. >> malarkey complaining, laughless, shirtless, just a few of the top search items on google during last night's debate. we have more on the debate coming up this hour. >> shirtless. >> shirtless what, could be better than that. >> welcome back to "early start." >> it's friday, october 12th. there was plenty of passion and paul ryan and joe biden each got in a zinger or two but no knockout last night in the vice presidential debate. nobody had a bad night and nobody was too polite, that's to be sure. joe biden was the aggressor and paul ryan looking like the calm, collected counterpuncher. >> and here's how america scored it. a cnn orc poll taken right after the debate showed 48% of the voters who watched thought ryan won and 44% favored pieden. that's a statistical tie. seni
. >> jack kennedy increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> a battle of minds. congressman ryan and vice president widen go head to head in the first and only vice presidential decade. we dig into the facts and fiction ahead. >> malarkey complaining, laughless, shirtless, just a few of the top search items on google during last night's debate. we have more on the debate coming up this hour. >> shirtless. >> shirtless what, could be...
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kennedy. to see that go to abc 7 news.com click on our debate story. we've got it there four. coming up at 6:00 the fact check continues. >> thank you. the next debate tuesday when president obama and mitt romney meet in new york. this will be a town hall meeting format. abc 7 will carry it live at 6:00 p.m. >> new warning today from defense secretary leon panetta about a new threat in cyber space. saying the count story at risk for a psycher pearl harbor tack from foreign computer hackers saying they crippled persian gulf based oil and gas companies. the most devastating cyber attack against major corporations we've seen so far. >> we have to address a new domain. we must secure to have peace in prosperity in the world of tomorrow. >> and he says the pentagon beefed up security efforts urging congress to back new standards in the private sector. >> a 14-year-old pakistani girl who has been shot in the head by the taliban has been moved to the hospital for treatment. she was promoting educatio
kennedy. to see that go to abc 7 news.com click on our debate story. we've got it there four. coming up at 6:00 the fact check continues. >> thank you. the next debate tuesday when president obama and mitt romney meet in new york. this will be a town hall meeting format. abc 7 will carry it live at 6:00 p.m. >> new warning today from defense secretary leon panetta about a new threat in cyber space. saying the count story at risk for a psycher pearl harbor tack from foreign computer...
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. >> >> now you're jack kennedy. >> what did you think of that exchange? >> i thought it was a good exchange, a sharp exchange. i think biden was, thought of that jack kennedy line and probably was thinking about it before he delivered it. it didn't really get to the meat of the question, though. the meat of the question is how do you pay for it? not that you say you're going to pay for it. and that's something that the romney/ryan ticket has had a hard time dealing with and the obama campaign has been zeroing in on. president obama didn't do a good job of zeroing in on that last week. that's something you'll hear the democrats keep hammering. there were other moments in the debate, touching moments at the end where both sides had a talk about abortion. they were both catholic. interesting to see joe biden talk about it as somebody that believes abortion is wrong in his own life, but not going to force others to conform to that view. and paul ryan really sticking to his guns on abortion, saying that, you know, he doesn't think it's the right thing, and tha
. >> >> now you're jack kennedy. >> what did you think of that exchange? >> i thought it was a good exchange, a sharp exchange. i think biden was, thought of that jack kennedy line and probably was thinking about it before he delivered it. it didn't really get to the meat of the question, though. the meat of the question is how do you pay for it? not that you say you're going to pay for it. and that's something that the romney/ryan ticket has had a hard time dealing with...
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. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? [ laughter ] >> tonight, biden also made sure to go after mitt romney in a way many say president obama failed to do in his first debate a week ago. >> for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their lives. my friend recently in a speech in washington said 30% of the american people are takers. these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up, my neighbors. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: yet paul ryan did not let up on the administration on obama care and taxes. >> now, we think government taking 28% of a family and that business income is enough. president obama, he thinks they ought to take the small business income. >> now, some early polling done right after the debate tonight. show that people are largely split over who came out on top. we're live in the newsroom, eric rasmussen. >> now, a live look where students formed their own opinions as they watched tonight's deb
. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? [ laughter ] >> tonight, biden also made sure to go after mitt romney in a way many say president obama failed to do in his first debate a week ago. >> for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their lives. my friend recently in a speech in washington said 30% of the american people are takers. these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up, my neighbors. they pay more effective tax than...
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. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? [ laughter ] >> tonight, biden also made sure to go after mitt romney in a way many say president obama failed to do in his first debate a week ago. >> for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their lives. my friend recently in a speech in washington said 30% of the american people are takers. these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up, my neighbors. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: yet paul ryan did not let up on the administration on obama care and taxes. >> now, we think government taking 28% of a family and that business income is enough. president obama, he thinks they ought to take the small business income. >> now, some early polling done right after the debate tonight. show that people are largely split over who came out on top. we're live in the newsroom, eric rasmussen. >> now, a live look where students formed their own opinions as they watched tonight's deb
. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? [ laughter ] >> tonight, biden also made sure to go after mitt romney in a way many say president obama failed to do in his first debate a week ago. >> for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their lives. my friend recently in a speech in washington said 30% of the american people are takers. these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up, my neighbors. they pay more effective tax than...
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. >> jack kennedy and -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> "mornings on 2" starts right now. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm mike mibach. >> i'm tori campbell. >>> we're following breaking news. the firefighters are on the scene of two major fires in the bay area. nun san francisco. one in san jose. we do have crews at both of those -- one in san francisco and one in san jose. we do have crews at both of those scenes. we do want to start with a restaurant fire. let's go to tara moriarty who joins us live with a look at the firefight still underway. tara? >> reporter: cau -- claudine, this is a really stubborn fire. crews have been battling this for two hours. you can see the roof collapsed. as a result, all muni lines through west portal are shut down, the k, l and m. that's going to cause a traffic nightmare this morning. more than 100 firefighters are on the scene fighting these flames. the call came in from a passerby at 5:00 a.m. we're in front of the west portal union station. it started at the gobble restaurant and spread to an orthodontist's office. we'll have to wait for arson
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. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're prosing. >> never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of the four guys on the ticket here. you've got mitt romney who starts his day in north carolina, hits virginia and meets up though with paul ryan in the evening for a joint event in ohio. joe biden, he's going to paul ryan's home state in wisconsin. president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> all right, chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the left of "the rachel maddow show" on msnbc and going into this joe biden needed to steady the ship and calm the democratic side. did he accomplish that? >> democrats are psyched that he had such a good night. yo
. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> you can cut tax rates by 20%. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're prosing. >> never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times actual. >> i never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: well, it's a busy day for three of...
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. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: in 1992, it was described as a free-for-all with dan quayle and al gore continually interrupting each other. >> in foreign countries -- foreign aid. senator, it's in your book. >> reporter: vice president cheney and senator john edwards barely kept their debate civil with cheney blasting edwards for his attendance recordn congress. >> the first time i ever met you was when you walked on the stag tonight. >> reporter: thursday biden is expected to go after ryan on issues like medicaid, social security and foreign policy. >> i wouldn't be surprised if you got a zinger or two from joe biden. i don't think he's worried about being perceived as talking down to paul ryan. >> reporter: and the personal momes
. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: in 1992, it was described as a free-for-all with dan quayle and al gore continually interrupting each other. >> in foreign countries -- foreign aid. senator, it's in your book. >> reporter: vice president cheney and senator john edwards barely kept their debate civil with cheney blasting edwards for his attendance recordn congress. >> the first time i ever met you was when you walked on the stag tonight. >>...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the host of msnbc's rachel maddow show. coffee is on me. going s debate, everybody said the goal of joe biden was to steady the ship, calm the nerves on the democratic side. did he do that? >> absolutely. democrats are psyched joe biden had a great night. you said at the top there was no clear winner and that may be, but it was important for the democrats that paul ryan not be the clear winner. most democrats, i don't know about independents, but most democrats think joe biden won. >> i think there's no winner because of joe biden's style, his demeanor. if we learned
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt?...